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[fontforge-users] Generate Font Suitcase
Abraham Lee
2016-12-05 22:00:34 UTC
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Can FF generate a mac font suitcase file (.suit)? If it cannot, does anyone
have a recommendation for an app that can on Windows? I'm on Windows 8.1
using FF version 4-Oct-2016.

Thanks,
Abraham
Jason Pagura
2016-12-06 05:38:55 UTC
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MacOS X no longer requires fonts be in suitcases. The same .otf or .ttf
font files used by Windows now work natively in MacOS X. Do you mean to
support legacy systems; e.g, MacOS 9 or earlier?

Windows does not support the resource/data forked file system Mac font
suitcases require. To my knowledge, Fontforge does not generate Mac font
suitcases, even on Macs. I have vague recollections of a program that would
convert a Windows .ttf into a Mac Truetype suitcase and save it as a .sit
file (Stuffit compressed), but I can't think of its name.
Post by Abraham Lee
Can FF generate a mac font suitcase file (.suit)? If it cannot, does
anyone have a recommendation for an app that can on Windows? I'm on Windows
8.1 using FF version 4-Oct-2016.
Thanks,
Abraham
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Abraham Lee
2016-12-06 14:46:45 UTC
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Hi, Jason!
Post by Jason Pagura
MacOS X no longer requires fonts be in suitcases. The same .otf or .ttf
font files used by Windows now work natively in MacOS X. Do you mean to
support legacy systems; e.g, MacOS 9 or earlier?
Windows does not support the resource/data forked file system Mac font
suitcases require. To my knowledge, Fontforge does not generate Mac font
suitcases, even on Macs. I have vague recollections of a program that would
convert a Windows .ttf into a Mac Truetype suitcase and save it as a .sit
file (Stuffit compressed), but I can't think of its name.
Thanks for your response and the info. I'm aware that the OS doesn't
require it, but an music notation app I'm creating fonts for (Finale) might
still expect it to be in that legacy format (it's been around for about 30
years now and part of it is kind of stuck in its old ways). I'm trying to
get more specific details from the Finale developers to determine if this
is really necessary or not. I'm hoping there's a way to use regular .otf or
.ttf files. That is definitely my preference.

Best,
Abraham
Frank Trampe
2016-12-07 04:25:07 UTC
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I'm also curious about this.
Post by Abraham Lee
Hi, Jason!
Post by Jason Pagura
MacOS X no longer requires fonts be in suitcases. The same .otf or .ttf
font files used by Windows now work natively in MacOS X. Do you mean to
support legacy systems; e.g, MacOS 9 or earlier?
Windows does not support the resource/data forked file system Mac font
suitcases require. To my knowledge, Fontforge does not generate Mac font
suitcases, even on Macs. I have vague recollections of a program that would
convert a Windows .ttf into a Mac Truetype suitcase and save it as a .sit
file (Stuffit compressed), but I can't think of its name.
Thanks for your response and the info. I'm aware that the OS doesn't
require it, but an music notation app I'm creating fonts for (Finale) might
still expect it to be in that legacy format (it's been around for about 30
years now and part of it is kind of stuck in its old ways). I'm trying to
get more specific details from the Finale developers to determine if this
is really necessary or not. I'm hoping there's a way to use regular .otf or
.ttf files. That is definitely my preference.
Best,
Abraham
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Abraham Lee
2017-02-03 19:03:39 UTC
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Just thought I'd finalize this thread.
Post by Frank Trampe
I'm also curious about this.
Post by Abraham Lee
Hi, Jason!
Post by Jason Pagura
MacOS X no longer requires fonts be in suitcases. The same .otf or .ttf
font files used by Windows now work natively in MacOS X. Do you mean to
support legacy systems; e.g, MacOS 9 or earlier?
Windows does not support the resource/data forked file system Mac font
suitcases require. To my knowledge, Fontforge does not generate Mac font
suitcases, even on Macs. I have vague recollections of a program that would
convert a Windows .ttf into a Mac Truetype suitcase and save it as a .sit
file (Stuffit compressed), but I can't think of its name.
Thanks for your response and the info. I'm aware that the OS doesn't
require it, but an music notation app I'm creating fonts for (Finale) might
still expect it to be in that legacy format (it's been around for about 30
years now and part of it is kind of stuck in its old ways). I'm trying to
get more specific details from the Finale developers to determine if this
is really necessary or not. I'm hoping there's a way to use regular .otf or
.ttf files. That is definitely my preference.
I discovered that FF *can* generate the SUIT format via the TrueType
(MacBin) option, IIRC. On Windows, this option defaults to the .TTF.BIN
extension instead.

As it turns out, I was able to find a way around needing to use the SUIT
format (thankfully) and use just a plain TTF instead. The issue I ran into
was the customized encoding the target app was using (including alternate
unicode points for each glyph), which I didn't know until I was able to
open a reference SUIT font and analyze it. Anyways, it's all behind me now
and I'm happy that I can just use the TTF format because that means I can
generate the needed fonts in FF on any platform!

All the best,
Abraham

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